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A Conversation With Levelle London: “I want to influence listeners and show them that there’s a whole theme of music that you’re missing out on right now.”

Sweeney Gloria

All things music, entertainment and opinions. Host of MM Talks and content creator via @thesgbrand.

Our music climate allows for more than one definition of what an artist is or, perhaps, should be. Still, Levelle London is indeed an artist – in all of its traditional meaning and glory. 

Levelle’s rich discography is simply an extension of his deep-rooted connection to music, particularly R&B. Even when he isn’t holding the mic, the engineer is nurturing the sounds of other musicians. A life truly anchored by the passion for his craft.  

Following the release of his sixth musical project, ‘Reassurance‘, Levelle and I connected over an afternoon conversation. His organic and transparent aura led us to gems throughout, whilst we unpacked the singer-rapper’s 10-track tape, his unique journey and R&B culture. 

With music that seamlessly cruises through the feels of alternative R&B, melodic hip-hop and everything in-between, Levelle London should occupy a place on every playlist. 

“I’m just going to come out and say, I saw you years ago at an open mic in Brixton…” 

L: Is it?! 

“Yeah! You and Alicai were on the line-up that night. You’ve really kept it going, so let’s throw it back to the Levelle who was doing open mics and just trying to break through!” 

L: I think it was 2016. I started way before that but by then, I had reinvented myself. I went back to the drawing board and did open mics to network. I wanted to shut down shows even if I wasn’t on the line-up. I’d take my people with me… we’d make noise and film it. Promoters would want me on the line-up after each show – it was a formula that I planned out. 

“Sick.” 

L: When you met me, it was a Nina Rose event. She approached me two nights before at another open mic. I had just met Alicai as well; we were both in the same circuits just doing our thing. That time there, I’d say, developed my first project. 

“As quite a fresh artist at the time, talk about where you got that formula and strategy from?” 

L: When I first started doing shows, I was quite young in 2008. From those experiences, I learned what to do. I took a year out to study the music, learn how to produce again. I studied music in college and I kept in contact with people who shouted me for shows. It was just a little bit of everything that I had taken from before.  

“Who was it that started you off in this music thing… who did you learn the game from?” 

L: Growing up I wanted to be all types of different R&B singers. When I got into secondary school, I wanted to be the biggest grime MC. I was listening to P Money, Bashy, Giggs and stuff like that. I was there for the beginning of the new culture. I was inspired by how they crossed over. I really just wanted to be an artist since I was a kid.  

“This is a brilliant background.” 

L: It was a mad different culture back then – Chip just had “Who Are U?” on Channel U. I was even in a boy group. Everything music, I’ve tried. In terms of building my own fanbase, I grew up working with Little Simz. She was always ahead and gave me ideas like making promo projects. I saw Lady Leshurr’s whole setup when I sang backing at one of her shows. It just inspired me to think more strategically in terms of marketing myself as an artist. 

L: I was doing that in 2009! I was rapping verses and singing on the chorus, so my rap verses became melodic. I was rap-singing in the key of the beat, not realising what I was doing. When Drake came out, I was like there’s someone doing it properly now. 

“Do you feel your music fits with the UK’s wave scene?” 

L: It fits everywhere. I’m versatile and I have phases where I might make total trap songs for two months. Then, in my next phase – I call them ‘bugs’ – might be six Afro tunes. 

“It sounds like you’re constantly making music, so how do you know when a song is a good song?” 

L: I’m making some right now! When I listen to sounds, I see colours. Sometimes they’ll clash and I’ll stop to change something. I know it sounds weird, but, to me, when all the colours are aligned it works. If I don’t believe myself, I’m not gonna let anyone hear it. Also, I have people that I trust with their musical ear. Mostly, I make music that I get gassed about. 

“I’m looking at ‘Reassurance’, your latest project. For someone who makes music so frequently, how did you decide on the 10 tracks?” 

L: I have so many songs and make playlists of what could be a project. With Reassurance, it was a weird journey. My last project’s (Dusk) base genre is R&B, but there’s a lot of other sub-genres. The ‘bug’ came again when I remembered why I started music. I made a singing song and it felt so good. I locked in with producers and Reassurance became a full circle moment… I’ve gone back to my roots. The project was originally gonna be called ‘R&B’. 

“Ah, and then we switched it to Reassurance because…” 

L: I wanted it to have a theme and there was a certain feeling I’d get when listening to the songs. It was gonna be called ‘Rhythm & Blend’ but ‘Reassurance’ made me hone in on a certain type of feeling or subject. It helped me select the songs, you know what I’m saying? 

“Is being honest and open in your music an uncomfortable process?” 

L: Uncomfortable? Yes. A problem? No. In everything that I do, I tried to lead by spirit and what I feel connects me to God. There’s some sort of message, inspiration or vulnerability that can hekp someone else. As long as I do that, that gives me the fulfillment from making music. 

“That is an A* answer. Let’s talk about your features, since you’ve only got drafted in two singers…” 

L: That was organic. I made the song with Rebecca Garton last summer. When I heard the beat, U thoiught she’d sound sick on it. We have the same manager but we’d never made a song together. With Ling Hussle, I was in ‘bug’ mode. I wrote the verse and chorus which reminded me of Ling so I called her. She did it and that was that. Both made the project because it wworked. 

“We can definitely hear the organic connection. It might not have been intentional, but R&B needs this kind of co-sign, particularly from male and rap artists. What do you think?” 

L: The singers are out there. Our major platforms are catered to and dominated by Hip Hop. The market where R&B is at its biggest is in America but America’s R&B artists aren’t even dominating the UK charts like they used to. It’s a culture thing. We used to have a whole R&B culture back in the day, but we’re in a season where UK rap is having its time. I don’t doubt that R&B will follow, so I don’t think we’re in a bad place.  

“Oh, yeah! Go ahead.” 

L: The world has sped up so much. People don’t wanna think – they want escapism and party stuff. The music that makes them feel like that is gonna be on top. Gatekeepers can choose to play more R&B if they wanted to because the artists are doing what they need to do. 

“I totally agree.” 

L: There’s people doing things. Nadia Jae and Ace have done R&B shows. It’s the R&B fans that need to make that big. You can’t make Drill fans get into it. I’ve recently realised, the listeners are older and the yutes aren’t growing up on the R&B we grew up on. They’re not gonna feel it how we feel it. If they think Summer Walker is the pinnacle of R&B, then that’s gonna be the sound for the next 20 years.  

“For any upcoming R&B artist: would they have to be real with themselves and produce ‘R&Blend’ music for the new market?” 

L: It depends on what you want. If you wanna be the biggest artist in the world, you’ll have to understand what people want to listen to. Traditional sounding R&B has a market, but it’s not the masses. If you can find a niche following, great. If you wanna be relevant to everyone, you’re gonna have to ‘R&Blend’ it a little bit. 

“Spot on. I want to ask you, should an artist like Drake ever be able to win an R&B award?” 

L: Why not? Who decides what R&B is now? If it’s got rhythm and blues, then who are we to say it shouldn’t be awarded if it’s a great song. Find Your Love could’ve won an award, why not? T Pain came and did something different, but we still call that R&B. The world develops and everything changes? 

“Right! Back to you, though, Levelle. Are you cruising through this independently or are you signed?” 

L: It’s just me and my manager. I did have a label services deal from 2018 – 2020, and I didn’t really enjoy it. I’m a reactive creative and being in a deal can makes things a longer process because you go through so many people. I was on tour with Geko and the songs I performed weren’t released yet. I couldn’t get the label to release it. I need a team that can move when it’s time to move. 

“It really is about having that solid team. Now that we’re out of COVID, what should we anticipate from Levelle London?” 

L: I’m gonna continue to push Reassurance. It’s not club-heavy, but the sound is timeless. I want to influence listeners and show them that there’s a whole theme of music that you’re missing out on right now. I’ve missed the stage, so I do wanna perform and I’m always making music so… you never know! 

My picks: No Risks + Gold Mine + Alfredo 

Reassurance is available on all major streaming platforms and you can lock in with the man himself right here

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